
Le week-end, c’est travaux manuels sur Mode Personnel(le) !
Il m’est déjà arrivé de vous suggérer de prendre des ciseaux pour donner un coup de jeune à un t-shirt ou à à un sweat. Après tout, certaines marques trendy nous proposent des vêtements neufs coupés bord franc, pourquoi ne pas tenter soi-même l’expérience ?
J’ai l’habitude de customiser des coussins, des vieux t-shirts et sweat dont je n’aime pas l’encolure trop près du cou. L’effet coup de ciseaux du décolleté est plus joli que le bord-côte épais d’origine et ça permet de leur éviter de finir en torchons à poussière.
Si c’est compliqué ? Pas besoin d’aiguille, ni de fils (ni d’être douée de ses mains). Il faut juste une bonne paire de ciseaux. Prête à couper votre vieux t-shirt ?
Munissez-vous de la paire de ciseaux qui coupent bien (des ciseaux de cuisine peuvent convenir) .
Saisissez votre sweat d’une main ferme et coupez l’encolure au niveau où le bord côte a été cousu. C’est facile, vous suivez la couture.

Go !
# Autre possibilité : le décolleté en pointe.
Comme sur ce sweat Rouart Van der Ende qui a reçu un coup de ciseau juste au milieu (mesurez pour être sûre)…

on coupe
Pour les manches, c’est facile, vous coupez n’importe où.
De toute façon, personne n’appréciera la précision de votre travail puisque vous roulotterez les manches.

on roulotte
# Pour les t-shirts, avant de couper, mieux vaut marquer la forme de l’encolure sur l’envers (arrondi, en V ou asymétrique comme sur ce t-shirt des Prairies de Paris).

coupe, coupe, coupe
Là aussi, vous pouvez aussi donner un coup de ciseau pour raccourcir les manches.
Si vous avez fait un petit cran, rattrapez avec des ciseaux plus petits. Mais sachez que le bord coupé va finir par roulotter naturellement donc les petites inégalités passeront inaperçues.
Non, ça ne s’effiloche pas, ce n’est pas de la maille.
Vous pouvez aussi créer un débardeur échancré avec un t-shirt basique. J’ai eu la main un peu trop généreuse avec mon tie and dye (il faut dire que je l’ai coupé sans prendre le temps de dessiner la forme !). Résultat, je le porte avec un autre débardeur dessous ou un bandeau.

oups…
# Dernière expérience, qui remonte à l’hiver dernier : la transformation de mes bottes de moto en low-boots.
La petite histoire : à force de chercher – en vain – des motardes basses, j’ai fini par dénicher des motardes classiques dans une friperie bruxelloises (40 euros). Je savais que je ne les porterais pas dans leur version haute (trop ado pour moi), j’ai pris mes plus gros ciseaux et j’ai coupé net.
J’ai d’abord coupé la tige dans le sens de la hauteur : le cuir était trop épais pour tailler directement dans la double épaisseur. Puis j’ai coupé à l’horizontal.
J’ai ajouté une chaîne-bijou à chacun des deux anneaux pour féminiser mes nouvelles boots et leur donner une touche personnelle.
A force de les porter, la doublure en cuir s’est un peu décollée mais il suffit de mettre un point de superglue.
Je suis plutôt contente du résultat, d’autant que, je peux le dire maintenant, j’ai serré les dents avant de me lancer !
Charlotte, si un jour, tu décides de faire passer tes Fiorentini du côté de la “team basse”, je te prête mes super ciseaux !

elle l’a fait !
Et vous, vous arrive-t-il de customiser des vêtements ?
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302 commentaires
joséphine
Ah clair, mes tshirts Cos sublimes de matière et de couleurs passent tous aux ciseaux pour élargir l’encolure, qui est systématiquement trop serrée. J’ai aussi fait resserrer les bas de jambes de 2 panalon Josep Font que j’ adore. 20 euros de retouche, et 2 slims ravissants.
mode-personnel
Ah oui mais ça c’est de la triche de passer par un retoucheur ! Je plaisante… c’est justement très difficile de trouver la bonne personne, celle qui comprendra comment on cordonnier (je grince des dents quand je dépose des chaussures chez le mien, même pour un topy).
christine
Les bottes, je n’aurai pas osé. Les ciseaux doivent super bien couper !
mode-personnel
Oui, tu as vu les molosses ?!
Laetitia H
Le pari me semble osé pour les bottes mais, de fait, le résultat est là !
Je fais souvent des ourlets mais ça n’est pas de la custo, plutôt de l’adaptation à ma petite taille. Par contre, je change assez facilement les boutons d’une robe, d’une blouse…
mode-personnel
Les boutons, je pratique aussi. Ça change tout !
Conseil pour toutes : Penser à récupérer les boutons d’un vieux cardigan ou manteau.
sarah babille
Ouch… alors, je l’ai fait (col danseuse ou juste l’arrondi ou plus échancré pour qu’il(S) tombent sur l’épaule) MAIS !!! sur des v^tements pas chers… je n’ose pas sur des vêtemetns plus chers… et jamais osé l’asymétrique ou le plongeant…..
Je voudrais bien les voir portés ces vêtements, comment tu roulottes, ce que tu mets dessous ou dessus ;)))))
je t’embête, là ?
quant aux bottes…. à part les teindre (pas tenté le coup des paillettes …) j’observe les tiennes pour le moment…
merci de parler de ces petites choses qui donnent un coup de peps (et de style)…
des bises
mode-personnel
Tu veux que je me prenne en photo, Sarah ? Tu n’es pas la première à le demander 😉 Tu as raison, c’est quand même plus parlant.
sarah babille
Je suis ambigüe sur le sujet. Je n’aime plus trop et surtout pas pour moi et pas lorsque c’est systématique. Mais parfois, il faut bien reconnaître que cela donne une idée plus précise. D’autant que je t’ai vue en vrai et par exemple, ta manière de porter un simple foulard donnait immédiatement une allure folle. Pareil chez Charlotte (à qui j’ai piqué l’idée il y a plusieurs années qui noue son foulard ou deux ensemble – idée que mes copines ont reprise tant c’est simple et joli)
mode-personnel
C’est gentil, Sarah ! Mon foulard XXL… il a besoin de passer par la case repassage celui-là !
Valérie de Metz
Je plussoie! Oui aux photos pour montrer ce que ça donne une fois fini et porté. J’avoue mon incompétence crasse dans le domaine. Recoudre un bouton est pour moi une épreuve. Je file tous mes ourlets chez la retoucheuse. Quiche (lorraine!) inside… Alors la custo je n’ose même pas y penser. A la rigueur me faire la main sur un tee shirt à 2 balles de chez H&M, ok, mais sur une ppièce chère, qui en plus me plaît… Je n’oserai jamais
mode-personnel
Effectivement, éloigne les pièces qui te tiennent à cœur de tes ciseaux. Je m’en voudrais que tu cisailles tes nouvelles bottes Prada !
matchingpoints
Modifier oui, couper au ciseaux non; c’est comme pour la salopette, ce n’est pas pour nous !
mode-personnel
Même pas pour un petit sweat de fin de semaine ?…
matchingpoints
A la réflexion on va essayer sur un petit t-shirt avant qu’il finisse en chiffon à poussière !
mode-personnel
Chic !
delphine
oui,excellent article qui va me permettre de reporter des tee shirts dont le col me genait et je pensais que àa s’éfilocherait mais puisque tu dis non,alors je fonce et en plus c’est vraiement décalé;d’ailleurs quoi faire d’autre ce WE de pluie si ce n’est m’acharner sur des tissus!delphine
mode-personnel
Je fais une détox penderie ce we (mais je n’apporterai pas mes ciseaux)…et j’aimerais m’occuper aussi de la mienne, histoire de retrouver mes pulls et manteaux !
jicky
moi, comme tu sais,; je suis une grande coupeuse devant l’éternel:
http://destylesenaiguilles.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/le-manteau-sans-manches-suite/
(mais bon, là, ma retoucheuse (une perle) m’a un peu aidée…
J’ai aussi déjà acheté des jeans slims La City à 9 euros l’un ds un bac à Soldes, exprès pour les couper (moi-même) à mi-mollet pour l’été..
mode-personnel
Très réussi ! Bravo Jicky.
muriel Biau
Ben tu penses !
Evidemment j’ai fait de la customisation expérimentale !!
ça passait ou pas !!… J’avais le goût du risque !!!
Il y a très longtemps, j’ai eu l’idée de couper les manches de mas tee shirt,
pas au ras des coutures, non en forme de petites manches courtes .
A l’époque je faisais des ourlets à la main …..
Et je le faisais à toutes mes copines !!
Après est venu le temps des sweats ….
j’enlevais tous les bords côte du bas,
Pour qu’ils tombent droit et je laissais bords francs,
et bien sûr les côtes du col découpées en décolleté “danseuse” !!!
j’en ai récupéré pas mal de mon fils en taille 14 ans,
plutôt qu’en faire des chiffons pour les chaussures !!!
Evidemment les jeans en short, opération très difficile car il ne faut pas couper droit,
mais en biais, pour qu’ils soient sexy !!! pas mal de ratages !!!
Et maintenant, depuis que j’ai acquis un jean Isabelle Marrant frangé en bas sur un 1 cm, je m’y colle pour raccourcir mes jeans trop long en 7/8 mais ils finissent avec un vrai ourlet machine !!
Quant aux bottes, j’ai failli et finalement elles sont dans un dépôt vente !!!
mode-personnel
Je transforme aussi les vieux jeans en short mais j’ai sûrement moins de technique que toi, j’ai tendance à couper droit, je coupe, je recoupe, j’effiloche… D’ailleurs, pas facile d’effilocher façon Marant, de faire un petit effilochage bien régulier. Tu sais le faire ?
muriel Biau
Oui Isa, j’ai raccourci un jean Marrant frangé trop long …
Très pénible à faire,
et après il faut faire une couture pour que ça ne s’éffiloche pas plus haut !!!!!
C’est plus long que de faire un ourlet normal à la machine …….
mode-personnel
Trop compliqué pour moi !! Pas de machine à coudre.
Chris
Il faudrait que je fasse d’abord l’acquisition d’une bonne paire de ciseaux 😀
mode-personnel
On en trouve dans les “fourre-tout” chinois ou paki (pas besoin d’aller au BHV)
missS
Ok pour les sweats, les t-shirt MAIS les bottes :O fallait oser.
mode-personnel
je suis bien contente d’avoir osé. J’ai failli demander au cordonnier mais finalement je me suis lancée.
Véronique
Le résultat de tes coupes franches a l’air pas mal, on aimerait en effet voir ça porté pour avoir une idée plus nette. Il est vrai qu’on essaie plus volontiers le coup de ciseaux sur des vêtements pas chers ou déjà bien amortis. Mon premier essai s’est porté sur un t-shirt de la collection Marni pour H&M (première fois que j’achetais du H&M) dont j’aimais beaucoup le devant mais qui avait un dos baillant (bayant ? j’ai un doute) beaucoup trop. J’ai décousu le dos, sauf qu’une partie des épaules allait avec. En fait, j’ai découvert que les coutures et la coupe du t-shirt était super complexe et que pour une première fois que je m’emparais d’un vêtement avec l’autorité d’une couturière que je ne suis pas, je ne faisais pas dans la facilité.
Depuis j’ai fait appel à une amie couturière et ensemble, après avoir trouvé un tissu qui va très bien avec le devant, nous travaillons à faire un nouveau dos. Elle en profite pour m’apprendre à utiliser une machine à coudre, faire son petit patron, faire une pince, etc. Je n’ai pas encore terminé le haut (ce sera pour l’été prochain) mais on passe du bon temps à coudre ensemble !
mode-personnel
Je vais essayer de faire des photos et de les poster sur Facebook. Effectivement, c’est plus vivant ! Bravo pour tes travaux. C’est bien de donner une deuxième vie à ses vêtements.
Delphine
j’ai eu une grande période découpage de t-shirt, en début de vingtaine quand j’en ai eu marre de tous mes t-shirts ras de cou classiques… disons que le résultat n’était pas d’une grande précision, et le look global… un peu kurt cobain goth
miam miam
aujourd’hui je limite mes customisations à des pièces sur lesquelles j’ai envie d’ajouter un effet un peu effiloché ou roulotté (vu que je ne compte pas sur mes talents d’ourletteuse), et j’avoue que maintenant j’aime bien couper 3 centimètres à une jupe ou une robe un peu longue et stricte pour la twister avec un ourlet destroy. J’ai tenté le coup sur une robe vintage 80’s de ma mère, que j’adore mais qui fait un peu “dame”, du coup avec une longueur au-dessus du genoux et un bord franc, ça la rend beaucoup plus cool !
mode-personnel
J’ai pratiqué aussi sur une jupe en cuir coupée bord franc, j’aurais pu la montrer. Zut, oublié. Ce n’est vraiment pas si difficile.
Anna
Comment fais tu pour que ce soit droit ?
mode-personnel
Je mesure à différents endroits (la hauteur comme si je faisais un ourlet) et je trace une ligne au crayon sur l’envers avant de découper.
Emmanor
J’avoue que je passe par une couturière en général mais j’aimerais bien oser me lancer. Souvent, quand je coupe, ça finit en chiffon, je ne dois pas être très manuelle.
mode-personnel
Commence “petit”, en échancrant légèrement un t-shirt. Il suffit de suivre la couture du bord-côtes.
Arnaud
Je suis un ardant partisan de la recup et de la customisation et on peut se révéler très créatif.
mode-personnel
Et c’est éthique et économique.
Sophie
J’ai à mon actif une jupe longue entièrement remaniée en robe avec coutures. Un peu trop serrées les coutures donc beaucoup de mal pour l’enlever. Mais j’ai eu beaucoup de compliment quand je l’ai porté.
Et des ballerines pour le travail dont j’ai coupé en V l’arrière qui me faisaient mal au pied.
Depuis à part des ourlets (mais Uniqlo les fait gratuitement sur leurs achats) et du tricot plus rien … En fait si un vêtement ou une paire de chaussure a une forme qui ne me convient pas, je n’achète pas. Surement que si je faisais les friperies je serais plus partante.
mode-personnel
Je n’achète pas non plus si ça ne me convient pas. A part pour ces bottes que je ne trouvais pas en version basse. Mais je les ai achetées en friperie. L’idée c’est de transformer des pièces qui commencent à nous ennuyer.
lea
j’adore customiser (surtout les chaussures), il y a quelques semaines j’ai aussi découpé une paire de bottes hautes dont je ne supportais plus le revers “moumoutte”, un petit peu de neoprene pour coller la doublure et hop une nouvelle paire de bottes, et sur une paire de bottines quelques clous et hop des bottines rock! d’ailleurs les clous je peux encore?
merci pour ton blog, c’est un vrai moment de bonheur à chaque lecture!
mode-personnel
Merci, merci Lea ! Je note les clous, c’est parfait !!
severi27
Oui j’ai découpé la bride à l’arrière de mes K Jacques car elles me faisaient mal à la cheville … résultat elles sont toujours trop petites pour moi, c’est très frustrant, enlever les bides n’a servi à rien, je ne sais pas si je trouverai preneur en l’état :-/
http://www.leboncoin.fr/chaussures/371160616.htm?ca=12_s
mode-personnel
J’espère que ça ne fera pas un “bide” pour reprendre ton lapsus (“enlever les bides”). Je souhaite que tu trouves preneuse ici.
severi27
Oups je n’avais pas vu … acte manqué ?
Emma
Les bottes sont super et ont trouvé du coup de belles proportions, beaucoup plus modernes.
Sinon, j’ai déja découpé de tshirst en marcel, et un sweat, pur les tshirts, je les lavais avec un filet de lavage
mode-personnel
Tu crains qu’ils s’effilochent ? Vraiment, il n’y a rien à craindre si le coton est épais.
Emiweb
Ça doit être dur de se lancer pour couper ses fringues et surtout des bottes mais une fois fait ça peut devenir une vraie addiction attention ; ) mais c’est une super manière d’offrir une seconde vie à nos vêtements!
mode-personnel
Aurais-tu le ciseau facile, Emiweb ? 😉
Christelle
super ce post ! justement je n’osais jamais me lancer… peur que ça s’effiloche… or j’ai deux-trois tee-shirts cols ronds et je préfère les cols V : merci de me donner le courage de me lancer ! mais avant ça, je note la bonne paire de ciseaux à acheter 🙂
mode-personnel
Pas d’effilochage. Sauf avec une matière ultra fine et transparente comme certains American Vintage ou les tiches Isabel Marant très très fins qui se trouent tout seuls. Pas de souci avec un t-shirt ou un sweat lambda. Il faut couper net. Je n’ai pas acheté de ciseaux spéciaux, j’ai pris ce que j’avais en magasin.
mmarie
Hello Isabelle, je l’ai fait un peu, il y a bien longtemps. Vais peut-être m’y remettre : tes exemples m’inspirent.
Bravo pour les bottes !
Tu me/nous glisserait l’adresse de la friperie bruxelloise ?
mmarie
glisseraiS (bien sûr)
mode-personnel
Impossible de me rappeler du nom de la rue, elle donne sur la Place du Jeu de Balle (il y a plein de boutiques de meubles), cette rue est connue. Tu situes ?
mmarie
Mmmmh oui, je crois que je vois: une petite rue courte, en pente, pavée, piétonnière ? (rue des Renards, peut-être). Ou carrément la rue Blaes.
En tout cas merci pour ta réponse !
mode-personnel
Presque !! Quand tu descends cette rue (dans laquelle il y a affectivement une friperie, fermée lors de ma dernière visite à Bruxelles), tu tournes à droite et c’est à 300 mètres !
mmarie
Bingo, rue Blaes alors.
Pour une prochaine visite bruxelloise, je te conseille aussi Gabriele Vintage, rue des Chartreux. Très très belle sélection.
Et hier soir, en pensant à toi, j’ai saisi mes ciseaux et libéré un tee-shirt sympa, rouge franc à rayures blanches, de l’encolure serrée qui ne me donnait pas envie de l’enfiler à ma mouflette 😉
mode-personnel
Merci mmarie ! Et bravo pour le t-shirt de mouflette.
Stelda
Je l’ai fait quasi sur tous mes t-shirts il y a 10 ans. A l’époque, on me regardait comme une folle perdue!! Je crois que je vais m’y remettre, tiens 😉
Super idée, pour les bottes : j’avoue que je n’aurais peut-être pas osé!
mode-personnel
Il faut essayer sur une paire de bottes que tu ne veux plus porter !
Benedicte
Ah ah moi aussi j’ai fait les bottes, des camarguaises adorées mais que e mettais moins à cause de la hauteur un peu batarde (mi-mollet) et maintenant j’ai des super boots. Les tee-shirts aussi, on a le ciseau facile (ma fille découpe aussi systématiquement l’encolure), j’adore les bords francs.
mode-personnel
Bravo ! J’ai aussi envie de le faire sur mes camarguaises poilues… J’hésite mais je sais que je les porterai davantage en version basse…
Gaëlle
Je me souviens de ton récit du découpage des boots ! Tu avais même mis des photos sur FB, si je me souviens bien 😉
Je n’ose pas trop découper les vêtements, mais franchement, il faudrait que je me lance pour les T-Shirts de groupes de rock achetés en concert, souvent l’encolure est trop serrée et du coup, je ne les porte jamais… Mais a-t-on le droit de porter des t-shirts de groupes à presque 40 ans, c’est une autre question….
Malenka
Comme c’est amusant, j’y ai pensé aussi. Tu devrais le faire!!! Perso envie de customiser des Tee shirts rock – garage ou metal -indus ( achetés mais evidement jamais portés) avec des coups de ciseaux, de la dentelle, des rubans, des brocards, des chainettes … La totale quoi! Je pense que le rendu serait sympa et très decallé! Mais … Hélas je suis un peu trop proscratinatrice!
mode-personnel
Malenka, tu as plein d’idées… Allez, au boulot, ça suffit la procrastination ! 😉
mode-personnel
Bonne mémoire ! Mais oui, on peut porter (une fois n’est pas coutume) des t-shirts de groupes (bon, pas Justin Bieber 😉 ). Bien sûr, l’idéal serait de porter nos t-shirts d’époque plutôt qu’une copie H&Misée. Après, c’est la silhouette qui compte.
Anna
Oui ça m’arrive de customiser mes vêtements, mais comme mon impatience et mon inexpérience en couture et travaux manuels donnent plus un résultat Deschiens que stylé, je préfère le plus souvent confier la customisation à ma couturière…Note que parfois je commence par customiser moi même et ça finit chez la couturière 😉
J’aime beaucoup tes idées en tout cas, notamment celle du sweat (et ça me semble simple, en plus ! Je vais aller faire un tour en friperie)
Tes motardes sont cools. Ca me fait penser que je veux des motardes… mais peut être des basses, en fait 😉
mode-personnel
“un résultat Deschiens”, ah ah ! Les motardes basses, ça se trouve en version neuve (sur des sites de motard si tu veux des vraies, ce n’est pas trop cher).
ladyjaja
Les ciseaux cranteurs sont parfaits pour les tissus fins car cela supprime les effilochages. Je les utilise également quand je défais l’ourlet d’une jupe ou d’une robe afin de les rallonger au maximum. Un petit coup de ciseaux cranteurs au raz du tissu donc pas besoin de nouvel ourlet et effet cranté réussi !
mode-personnel
Merci Ladyjaja pour ces conseils…mais du coup, on voit forcément l’effet cranté. Pas sûr que ce soit toujours idéal pour une encolure ?
ladyjaja
Pas testé sur une encolure mais je crois que l’effet pourrait être sympa. J’aime pour un faux ourlet ou en bas de manches.
Marie
J’avoue que je ne suis pas très inspirée par la customisation, à part le col des Tshirts, ça va de soi 😉
Par contre, j’adore coudre des vêtements ! J’ai commencé par ma fille, c’est plus facile..et ça m’a vite donné envie de m’y mettre pour moi aussi ! Bon, c’est vrai, les premiers essais étaient plutôt de l’ordre du sac à patates que de la petite blouse bien coupée, mais je progresse ! Ce que je préfère : chiner des patrons bien rétros pour quelques centimes et les coudre avec de beaux tissus bien actuels ! Fut un temps, je passais mes envies de shopping comme ça : au lieu d’aller faire les magasins, je me faisais un truc :-D. Mais maintenant que je bosse à nouveau, je cours après le temps, alors je fais à nouveau les magasins !!
mode-personnel
C’est formidable de savoir coudre et quel plaisir de porter une pièce unique. J’avais ce privilège quand ma mère cousait les vêtements que je dessinais et dont je choisissais les tissus. Je n’aurai jamais la patience, ni le temps.
L0o
Tu aimes vivre dangereusement dis donc 😉
mode-personnel
Et en plus, je les porte !
Balibulle
Oh là là je jalouse tes basses home made ! Et le petit détail de la chaîne, pfff… amour <3
Pour les Fiorentini, pas de danger, leur intégrité n'est pas menacée, en revanche je rêve de transformer mes bottes safran en boots : http://www.balibulle.com/post/2009/12/28/monomania-2-yellow/
Le seul hic ? Je n'arrive plus à mettre la main dessus… C'est la deuxième paire de bottes que je perds inexplicablement lors de mes transhumances de garde-robe été/hiver et ça me chagrine à mort. D'autant que l'autre paire perdue, c'est celles-ci :
http://www.balibulle.com/post/2009/01/19/unexpected-bliss/
Indémodables, je les aimais tellement !
La malédiction des camarguaises…
mode-personnel
Mais qu’est ce que c’est que ces histoires, Charlotte ? Comment peut-on égarer des bottes ? Y aurait-il un acte manqué là-dessous ? Un voleur de camarguaises ? Bouh…suis désolée. Toi les retrouver et moi venir avec mes ciseaux et des chaînes (pas pour les attacher).
Remarque, j’ai égaré un coussin qui était tous les jours posé sur mon lit. Ça reste un mystère.
Balibulle
Je ne vois que l’hypothèse du tragique syndrome de personnalités multiples…
mode-personnel
Tu me fais rire (on devrait écrire un livre 😉 )
LiliSouris
Je trouve mes bottes trop flasques. J’aimerais les rendre plus solides en rajoutant une tige ferme à l’intérieur. Tu penses que la manipulation est possible? Si oui, tu as des idées sur comment procéder?
Merci =) !
mode-personnel
Je ne me risquerais pas ! Où insérer la tige, ça me semble un peu délicat. Peut-être vaut-il mieux laisser faire un cordonnier.
LiliSouris
C’est la voix de la sagesse qui parle! Merci de tes conseils ^^
Murielle
J’ai souvent l’envie de couper le bas de mes jeans toujours trop long, je suppose qu’il faut prévoir un cm de plus car ca doit s’effilocher à la longue ?
Je ne sais pas pourquoi mais quand je roule le bas de mes jeans ( revers)chez moi ca fait toujours moche…peut être parce qu’il a trop de longueur en trop, genre 10 cm
mode-personnel
Il ne faut pas que le bas du pantalon soit trop large, voilà le secret.
Soizic
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